{"id":391,"date":"2012-11-04T04:31:18","date_gmt":"2012-11-04T03:31:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/prajnaquest.fr\/blog\/?p=391"},"modified":"2012-11-04T04:31:18","modified_gmt":"2012-11-04T03:31:18","slug":"book-of-dzyan-stanza-i-michael-lewis-translationinterpretation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/prajnaquest.fr\/blog\/book-of-dzyan-stanza-i-michael-lewis-translationinterpretation\/","title":{"rendered":"Book of Dzyan, Stanza I, Michael Lewis translation\/interpretation"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u2026..IN THE MATRIX OF THE PRIMORDIAL DEITIES<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201c\u2026in the night of Sun-chan.\u201d<\/p>\n

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– Michael Lewis and Ken Small<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Blavatskys\u2019 final version of\u00a0 Stanza one and also her\u00a0 Tibetan phonetic source is indented from the original in the Secret Doctrine<\/em> Proem, p. 23.\u00a0 The earlier version from Blavatsky\u2019s 1886 manuscript is given after the later one under sub a.
\n(Michael Lewis translation \/ interpretation and comments follow in bold italics and plain type. I have made the arrangement and editing. K.S.)<\/p>\n

<\/h1>\n

1. THE ETERNAL PARENT WRAPPED IN HER EVER INVISIBLE ROBES HAD SLUMBERED ONCE AGAIN FOR SEVEN ETERNITIES<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

1a.\u00a0 THE Eternal Mother (space) wrapped in her ever invisible robes (cosmic prenebular matter had slumbered for seven Eternities,<\/strong><\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

Tho-ag in zhi-gyu slept seven Khorlo<\/h3>\n

 <\/p>\n

The Potential of Spatiality as the Fundamental Cause [or Causal Ground]\u00a0 slept for seven cycles<\/strong><\/h3>\n

 <\/p>\n

Tho-ok = the \u2018boundless all\u2019 equivalent to Parmenides apeiron<\/em> = boundless<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

Tho = above and ok = below (see example of this usage in the Throma sadhana). Tibetan often makes use of two extremes to create a definition, in this case \u2018above\/below\u2019 giving the meaning of \u2018spatiality\u2019.<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

Zhi gyu = uncaused cause or fundamental cause ( Zhi-ma would negate this)<\/p>\n

 <\/p>\n

2. TIME WAS NOT, FOR IT LAY ASLEEP IN THE INFINITE BOSOM OF DURATION.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

2a. (identical rendering)<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Zodmanas zhiba. <\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Patiently the One Mind peacefully\u00a0 abided<\/h4>\n

 <\/p>\n

Zhipa = patient\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Manas = mind in Sanskrit\u00a0\u00a0 Yeh Zhi =\u00a0 primordial ground or original foundation = Dharmakaya. This would be \u2018aja-sakti, the unborn, a Dzogchen term which Blavatsky references in her article on \u2018Tibetan Teachings\u2019 give ref.)<\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 All Nyug bosom.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

All was in [the bosom of] the Ultimate Natural State.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Nyug is the same as Nyuk. The nyuk that David Reigle is referring to is spelled snug and means quite correctly duration. However gnyug(ma) which is usually short for gnyug ma\u2019i sems means the genuine innate, interrupted ongoing, perpetual, original natural state or nature or the authentic original untouched nature which is virtually synonymous with Dzogchen. It is said to be \u2018ma sam gur pay nur lay day\u2019 = inconceivable and ineffable and cannot be an object of intellective consciousness. As Joseph Campbell says \u201cno tongue can soil it with a name.\u201d The secondary meaning is of continuously residing or indigenous = Sanskrit nija. \u2018Nyuk me sems\u2019 is a synonym for rigpa, the uncontrived untouched natural complete awareness spontaneously present. The original, indigenous \u2018resident\u2019 of the universe, the mandala of Samantabhadra. The \u2018ma\u2019 in gnyugma\u2019 = the motherly underlying empty essence and refers directly to the prajna paramita \u2013 the motherly wisdom of the Buddhas.\u00a0 Blavatsky conveys this by her use of the word \u2018bosom\u2019 as a poetic metaphor to convey the correct feeling tone for this meaning.<\/p>\n

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    \n
  1. 3.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong>UNIVERSAL MIND WAS NOT, FOR THERE WERE NO AH-HI TO CONTAIN IT.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

    3a. Time was not, for there were no Dhyan Chohans to contain (hence to manifest) it.<\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

    Konch-hog not;<\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

    There was no separate existence of Deity;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

    Konchok \u2013 when the Moravian missionaries translated the Christian Bible into Tibetan they used the word \u2018Konchog\u2019 when translating \u2018God\u2019. It could be translated as \u2018supreme superiors\u2019.<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

    Regarding \u2018AH-HI\u2019, the expression \u2018Ah-hay\u2019 = \u2018hadewa\u2019 which means the awe surprised wondering awareness, uncontained. It is also similar to \u2018ATI\u2019<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Thyan-Kam not;<\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Everything was non-dual and was absorbed in the primordial state;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

    [alternative] Nor was there meditative absorption with formal substratum<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

    [alternative] The one elemnt was absorbed in the primordial state.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

    Tian Kham = Dhyan = meditative absorption and Kham = formal substratum<\/p>\n

    or Thyan-Kam = element.<\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

    Lha-Chohan not;<\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

    There were no gods or exalted ones;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

    Lha = gods and Chohan = exalted ones<\/h3>\n

    \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

      \n
    1. 4.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong>THE SEVEN WAYS TO BLISS WERE NOT.\u00a0 THE GREAT CAUSES OF MISERY WERE NOT, FOR THERE WAS NO ONE TO PRODUCE AND GET ENSNARED BY THEM.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

      4a.\u00a0 (identical\u00a0 rendering)<\/strong><\/p>\n

      \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

      Tenbrel Chugnyi not;<\/strong><\/p>\n

      \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

      There was no twelvefold chain of interdependent arising<\/h4>\n

      \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

      \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        \n
      1. 5.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong>DARKNESS ALONE FILLED THE\u00a0 BOUNDLESS ALL, FOR FATHER, MOTHER AND SON WERE ONCE MORE ONE, AND THE SON HAD NOT AWAKENED YET FOR THE NEW WHEEL, AND HIS PILGRIMAGE THEREON.<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

        5a.\u00a0 (Identical rendering with only without the ending phrase \u201cand his pilgrimage thereon.\u201d is not in this earlier version.)<\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        Dharmakaya ceased; <\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        Dharmakaya ceased<\/h4>\n

         <\/p>\n

        Cho lon yang me = Dharmakaya also was not<\/p>\n

         <\/p>\n

        \u201cA very profound\u00a0 view.\u00a0 I don\u2019t believe this is discussed or elucidated anywhere as a philosophical concept in Buddhist philosophy. Perhaps in Dzogchen, but I do not know of any reference at this time either translated\u00a0 or in Tibetan.\u201d (M.L.)<\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        Tgenchang not become;<\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        Anything having specific characteristics had not yet become.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        Tgenchang\u00a0 could be rgyen chang = ornament holder. The \u2018T\u2019 is not a correct prefix.<\/h3>\n

        \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/em><\/strong>Barnang and Ssa in Ngovonyidj<\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        The blazing forth of experience and its ground in shear essentiality was what was.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        Barnang = blazing appearance. Nang = the same meaning as Pleroma in Greek = \u2018lighting up\u2019\u00a0 and implying objects of cognition.<\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        6. THE SEVEN SUBLIME LORDS AND THE SEVEN TRUTHS HAD CEASED TO BE, AND THE UNIVERSE, THE SON OF NECESSITY, WAS IMMERSED IN PARANISHPANNA, TO BE OUTBREATHED BY THAT WHICH IS AND YET IS NOT.\u00a0 NAUGHT WAS.<\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        6a.\u00a0 The seven sublime Truths, and the Seven Srutis\u2014had ceased to be, and the Universe, the Son of Necessity, was plunged in Paranishpanna (absolute perfecton, Paranivwana, which is Jong-grub)\u2014to be outbreathed by that which is, and yet is not. Naught was,<\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n

        Alone Tho-og Yinsin in night of Sun-chan <\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        The potential of spatiality alone held existence in the night of Sun-chan<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0[or alternative\u00a0 rendering]<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

        The matrix from which would arise the primal deities alone held existence <\/em><\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        Sun \u2013 chun \u2013 according to Chandra Das quoting de Koros, Sun-chun means ancestral spirit or tutelary deities and chan means possessed of.\u00a0 It would be useful to look for this term in a Zhang-Zhung dictionary.<\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        and Yong-grub (Parinishpanna)<\/strong><\/p>\n

        \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

        and everything was already accomplished there.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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